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Wonder Women Entrepreneurs! This is the place to join conversations with thought leaders who amaze, astonish and inspire you. Listen each week as entrepreneur and host Kalika Yap explores the challenges, wisdom and breakthroughs of extraordinary people. (An Entrepreneurs’ Organization production)

Featured guests include:
Lisa Sugar, cofounder of POPSUGAR
Toni Ko, founder of NYX Cosmetics
Devin Alexander, celebrity chef and nutrition expert who appears on "The Biggest Loser"

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Apr 15, 2020

Meet author, entrepreneur, and CEO Verne Harnish, the founder of the Entrepreneur’s Organization. Known as the “Growth Guy,” Verne has also published multiple books, including Scaling Up and Mastering Rockefeller Habits. Listen in as Verne shares the 5 C’s of leading during a crisis, knowing your top 25 relationships, and how “people aren’t logical, they’re psychological.” Tune in!

Timestamped show notes:
03:21 - The 5 C’s of leading within a crisis or downturn
05:07 - One word: triage
11:33 - Getting punched in the face every single day
15:14 - Discipline and focus are critical
18:02 - Scaling up people and the importance of relationships
20:01 - Find out your top 25 relationships
33:07 - A simple strategy
36:09 - “Keeping the main thing”
44:30 - The first law of entrepreneur gravity growth
53:01 - Verne shares some stories about entrepreneurs stepping up and helping out
55:13 - Verne shares his daily habits
56:34 - Are leaders born or made?
57:21 - “People are not logical, they’re psychological.”

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