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Aug 29, 2018

In this special 2-part episode, Kalika is joined by Marshall Goldsmith and Sally Helgesen, the authors of the book, How Women Rise: Break the 12 Habits Holding You Back from Your Next Raise, Promotion, or Job. They talk about women's distinctive behaviors that provide them with many advantages, as well as the habits that can hold them back in their careers. Tune in now!

 

Timestamped show notes

00:45 Kalika is joined today by Marshall Goldsmith and Sally Helgesen, authors of How Women Rise: Break the 12 Habits Holding You Back from Your Next Raise.

01:10 Marshall's friend pitched the idea to do a more female-focused version of his bestselling book, What Got You Here Won't Get You There: How Successful People Become Even More Successful, which in turn became the inspiration to publish How Women Rise.

02:30 Women are much more harder on themselves than men, which perpetuates the concept of The Perfection Trap.

03:46 Women can rise by identifying and acting on their greatest strengths, and which behaviors that have been previously effective but can now hinder you from becoming more successful.

04:20 One of the behaviors that could hinder women from having a more successful career is the concept of really letting your job get ahead of your career, sacrificing long-term success for having a stable job.

08:15 Based on Sally's observation among her speaking and coaching tours in the US, women usually expect others to spontaneously notice and value your contribution.

12:40 The book highlights that there are behaviors that are not necessarily bad that were good to have for now, but not good when you get promoted.

16:12 The book is dedicated to Frances Hesselbein, one of the best examples of a great woman leader.

 

Key Takeaways

  1. To bring attention to your work, you have to take responsibility, you have to step up, and you have to find a way that you are comfortable with of representing what your achievements and values are.
  2. Women in organizations tend to be valued for and promoted because of precision and correctness, where as men are valued for and promoted for boldness, big-vision, and risk-taking.

 

Resources

Entrepreneurs' Organization

How Women Rise: Break the 12 Habits Holding You Back from Your Next Raise, Promotion, or Job

What Got You Here Won't Get You There: How Successful People Become Even More Successful

EO 360° Podcast